chamber of commerce, when he spoke to that group yesterday. this is a distraction now for him. he heads off to utah and texas. he has fund-raisers there. >> how troubled are they by this? >> they think this is unfortunate. not so much his underlying point, which doesn't really contradict his campaign message, but the way he said it. there's no plans now to really back off this, issue an apology. because it does kind of square with a lot of romney's message, which is that the president has a campaign that wants more government, big government. and people are becoming more dependent on government under president obama. that's romney's message. what he said in that fund-raiser isn't really at odds at that. but as he said, it was the way it was phrased. >> thank you, january. >>> with me now, john mccain's manager when he ran for president in 2008. welcome. >> thank you, charlie. >> how damaging is this and all these reports of dissension in the romney camp? >> the two are unrelated. everybody has the youtube moment in politics. you just described the obama youtube moment. and you'